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by **captkirk** » Mon Apr 03, 2006 4:19 pm

Hi All,

When I started using FREE advertising several years ago, many people felt that Traffic Exchanges, Free For All (FFA), Classifieds, Safelists, and other Free Methods Of Advertising were a waste of time and effort and some of the worst form of advertising on the net.

So, How Do You Feel About Free Advertising?

But, before you answer, here's some of my results with using ONLY free advertising:

* In March, I directly signed-up 230 members in one program that I promote.

* I have grown a downline of over 14,000+ members in another program.

* My forum have OVER 900+ members and growing daily.

* I'm Listed on Michael Rasmussen's Top 25 Referrers List out of 100,000+ members at Free Advertising Forum (The forum Mike Filsaime got his idea for his Advertising Blog).

* I moderated Ron and Rick Davies "Free Marketing Methods" forum at CBGuide after they seen my results with Free Advertising. (Harvey Segal (Mr Supertips) use to moderate a forum at CBGuide while I was moderating Free Marketing Methods. Also, Michael Rasmussen and Mike Filsaime have their endorsement on Rick and Ron Davies's 1stpromotion sale page.)

* And the list goes on...

Anyway, How Do You Feel About Free Advertising?

by **Heysal** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 8:34 am

Not just free advertising - free everything. I built a whole website without spending a dime -- sell hundreds of products that don't cost a cent to sell, and now I use free promotions.

It isn't the cost of the ad that gets you the sales -- it's the amount of exposure to people who want your products that gets sales. I myself think that unless you have money to burn it is completely senseless to buy something that you can get free. Why pay per click, etc. when just as many people in a forum would be interested in your product?

And when you are getting free exposure -- you don't risk the chance of getting scammed - paying per click? How do you really know that those are honest clicks? Do you want someone reading your ad because they are getting paid to do it or because they are interested in your ad?

Same with websites -- you going to pay a Guru 30 bucks a month to give you a clone website you can call your own because you sprung for the domain and suffer the reduced traffic a copycat site gets -- or are you going to build one free that is equal to or not better and is original so gets better traffic odds anyway??

Wake up call folks.

by **captkirk** » Sat Apr 08, 2006 9:44 am

Hi Sal,

I agree with you a 1000%!

I couldn't have said it better.

by **onomoney** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 7:25 am

Heysal wrote:Not just free advertising - free everything. I built a whole website without spending a dime -- sell hundreds of products that don't cost a cent to sell, and now I use free promotions.

It isn't the cost of the ad that gets you the sales -- it's the amount of exposure to people who want your products that gets sales. I myself think that unless you have money to burn it is completely senseless to buy something that you can get free. Why pay per click, etc. when just as many people in a forum would be interested in your product?

Wake up call folks.

Sal I totally agree 100% with you I went on a total 100% free marketing diet and I am getting way better results than paying.
The only thing I have paid for in a long time is 25.00 For my P4P e-book awhile back and that is it.
If it's FREE it's for ME

by **captkirk** » Mon May 29, 2006 11:31 am

onomoney wrote:I went on a total 100% free marketing diet and I am getting way better results than paying.

Hi Onomoney,

I have been on that FREE marketing diet for years and get better results than paying for advertising.

Why?

When it come to FREE advertising I don't have any limits except for time and effort.

But, when it comes to PAID advertising I had to limit my advertising budget to what I could afford, which limited how much advertising I could do.

BTW, I jdo consider FREE advertising with the option to upgrade to be FREE advertising even if you pay a monthly membership fee.

by **slgpromotions** » Sat Jun 03, 2006 5:07 am

Hi everyone, I think free advertising is great and I know it works. I have experienced it personally and have had many of the members of my forums come back to tell me the increase in sales and new sign-ups to their programs and businesses as a direct result of posting on our forums! I've had members give me what would equate to paid advertising as a way of saying thank you!!! And it was them insisting to do something for me because I shared the forum and free advertising with them. So free advertising for me is a no-brainer. I have been convinced over the past year how well it works, how bout you??

Scott

by **andrewwyvern** » Sun Jun 18, 2006 4:32 pm

hi all

i have to agree i have never spent a single penny on advertising and have seen an increase in business since i started using forums.i agee you have to put in a lot of time posting etc but it is well worth it in terms of results.

best wishes
andrewwyvern

by **robin123** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 4:36 am

I had a "coach" "offer" me an advertising package a couple of weeks ago.. for well over $1000.. I told him No thanks.. I can advertise myself.. I dont need to spend over $1000 with you to do that! :wink:

by **captkirk** » Sun Jul 09, 2006 3:57 pm

robin123 wrote:I had a "coach" "offer" me an advertising package a couple of weeks ago.. for well over $1000.. I told him No thanks.. I can advertise myself.. I dont need to spend over $1000 with you to do that!

Hi Robin,

If the program was so great, I can't see why he would charge his student that much money for the package.

Unless, he make his money off selling the package and less money form using his own system.

Go figure...

by **robin123** » Mon Jul 10, 2006 4:09 am

I dont know .. I think he probley made his money from selling me the package.. he seemed shocked that I wouldnt just say YES! LOL... but gosh Ive been online long enough to know how much advertising is out there and how much is free or very reasonable! :roll:

by **bizoppfrankie** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 12:15 am

Hello fellow members,
I'm really glad I found this forum and many others like it because I hope to learn a lot about not just free but "effective" advertising!

First, to answer the question of the thread, I can't really say much for any form of advertising, free and paid, since I got very little results from both. Classifieds, FFA's (just filled my mailbox with junk), safelists, solo ads, none worked very well for me.

I've gotten some tips already on posting effectively in forums, and I found some free resources that look great, like Linkscout. I've heard that ezine solo ads are effective too, but I don't have the money to invest right now, so I plan to concentrate on forums and other free resources. Since some of the members who have posted to this thread seem to be very knowledgeable and successful, I would appreciate any advice you care to share with me

Thanks!
bizoppfrankie

by **robin123** » Mon Jul 24, 2006 2:30 am

I know I have learned alot from the forums I'm involved in!

by **fruitbat** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 6:38 pm

I have a freebies forum that is now 3 months old. I could not afford to sink a bunch of money into advertising so the first thing that I did when I went live was to put ads on every free classifieds and free advertising site that I could find. I ran into a "How To" list that Captkirk had posted on some forum (I still have it) and doing this got my name on the board so to speak, lol. Google started recognizing my URL from those sites and that helped a lot.

Since then I trade links with as many freebies sites as I can and I have a makeup gift bag promotion that I run. The makeup promo costs next to nothing. My site is JAMMIN' and I'm in the process of signing up for my affiliates so that I can make my homepage into a cyber shopping mall.

Honest to God, the first thing that I did was plaster my URL on every free ad site that I could find.

The future looks bright.

by **captkirk** » Sun Jul 30, 2006 7:14 pm

fruitbat wrote:I ran into a "How To" list that Captkirk had posted on some forum (I still have it) and doing this got my name on the board so to speak, lol. Google started recognizing my URL from those sites and that helped a lot.

Thanks for the kind words!

It's nice to know that someone heard me!

You get an A+ and a bonus!...Great Job!!!

by **sweetlass** » Mon Jul 31, 2006 12:18 pm

I really like posting on free ads.
Posting on free ads is part of my daily routine because:
- easy way to get indexed in the search engines
- to generate more traffic
- a way to make extra money
- advertise my product/s for free
- I enjoy having a conversation here!

And a lot more.

Happy posting!
Amber

by **hititbig1** » Fri Aug 04, 2006 8:48 pm

Free Advertising has done incredible things for me as well Capt., as a matter of fact, I just launched a new forum to help people promote their sites and offers. The Free Advertising Forums have really done a lot for me and many of my partners. I love Free Advertising!

by **rmmtl** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 12:04 am

Hi Everyone,

Great topic, one that deserves a lot of our attention and focus.
All things being equal, I think everyone will opt for free
advertising. The ultimate question as I see it is:

Is it effective advertising, i.e., what is the return on my
investment?

Here I want to be careful. For free advertising, I am likely to measure
the time spent posting threads on forums, blogging, online chatting, etc.
versus referrals gained (and eventually, cash

) If my time:referral
ratio has been met, then my "free" campaign was a success.

With paid advertising, we need to measure cost per lead, cost per
referral, and pure return (e.g. this $100 ad led to 10 leads, 2 sales, and a
$20 per month residual). For those of us working for a living and unable
to devote a lot of time to online marketing, effective paid advertising can
be a reasonable option. So long as we can afford it and target an
appropriate clientele.

With all the high profile marketers and programs promoting free
advertising these days, there must be something to it. Together with
low-cost, targeted advertising (assuming we know how to target LOL),
everyone should succeed.

What can you afford - time or money?

Thank you.

by **hititbig1** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 2:30 am

Like Sweetlass said, posting in forums is a great way to get indexed. Not just your website, but the thread as well. I have a feeling that this thread will rank high for "Free Advertising", for example.

The word "free" is in the URL, as well as the title, and sub titles. The keywords "free and "advertising" are used at or near the recommended ratio. The keywords are displayed in bold print in some cases, and it's a thread of interest, so it will likely get more responses where others will use the keywords "free" and "advertising" as well. I see no reason why it wouldn't rank high if we stay on topic.

I have 2 free advertising forums right now, and I plan to create several more in the near future. Though if everyone understood the power of the reply, one forum would be more than enough. Put simply, if we all work together and target a keyword, we can rank high for almost any of them. I suggest subscribing to a thread that will spark the interest of others. The more replies the better. If you can't think of a subject for your post, use the original subject with "re:" in front of it.

Free advertising is more rewarding than many realize, and if done correctly, can generate a massive amount of traffic.

P.S. Set up your Signatures!!!

by **cheapazz** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 4:15 pm

I've been using free advertising for a couple of years now and will never stop. My user ID says it all :wink:

Brian (cheapazz)

by **allmylovecrafts** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 7:21 pm

I agree you have time or money. I am a stay at home mom so I have time, I am also a tightazzz. I have yet to try paid ads other than I do make business cards to send out in MomPacks (that has worked great). We just let my youngest daughter register for our forum so she can learn to post.... She doesn't have "life experience" but she has learned that every time she post in word games, jokes, music... her name and sig line is there. When she does find her own business she will be ahead of the game. So watch out for the new generation of FREE Advertisers - they are coming!
Sheryl

by **onomoney** » Sun Aug 13, 2006 10:50 pm

I think that we should all pool together and buy some advertising to promote FREE advertising. (LOL)!!!!

I don't think they would allow that.

Look at the warrior forum, don't talk about how effective free advertising is we will ban you.

by **Mommy2Lots** » Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:52 am

Yes, free advertising works very well. I also use free traffic exchanges.
Why pay if you can get it free?
I have never paid for any type of advertising and all the ebooks I have collected on marketing or other business strategies were all given to me free. I refuse to pay for information or ads that I can find and post on my own. If you pay for advertising, you get less profit because you're spending it on more and more ads.

by **robin123** » Fri Sep 22, 2006 7:23 am

I have done FREE advertising and also PAID advertising and I have had good results with the FREE and less desirable results in the PAID.. So go figure...

As for me.. Im sticking with FREE!

by **itsokae** » Sat Oct 21, 2006 6:05 am

I have to agree... Free Advertising gets just about the same results as paid advertising. Paid does have some advantages generally, but why bother if the results are the same.

I use FREE the most personally unless the paid is a really good deal. I like the lifetime memberships rather than the monthly payments.

by **layton** » Sun Oct 22, 2006 10:02 pm

Both free and paid ads have mixed results as to response rate, would you not agree? What will work for some, will not work for others. What if a program came along with the concept that a person could learn the very basice of networking and at the same time a person that has been networking for a while, also teach in depth the areas that they are weak in, to make them more proficient in their weak areas. What I am talking about is a group of like minded individuals that will pass their expertise along with hands on training to how to most effictivly network, would you like to see that?

Layton

by **andrewwyvern** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 2:34 am

Hi Layton,

If You talk about a group of like minded individuals that will pass their expertise along with hands on training to how to most effictivly network, as You said in Your post then why pay for it?

You can get all the information You need for free by using forums I would help anyone that asked me and i am sure that all of the other site admins would too and have seen many examples of this.

Join any of the many great forums that are out there and ask for the information You require and someone will give it to You. Dont pay the so called "gurus" who have got rich by selling what You can get for nothing.

Examples of this are when "Captkirk" had his posts deleted from one marketing forum because it was about "free" advertising but the forum was run by people who had got rich by selling advertising to newbies who didnt know better..

I have been quite succesfull at online marketing but have never spent a penny on advertising and never would. Everything You need to build an online business is available for nothing other than a bit of effort and a bit of thought.

If You want to start advertising then join forums first of all and I am NOT advertising mine it is just that forums are one of the best places that You can go to promote Your business and then ask questions about anything You dont understand because somebody WILL answer You for FREE You do not need to pay "gurus" (There must be another name for guru but it will be too rude to post here)

If You read this and You dont understand something then please PM me and I will try to answer Your question, If I cant then I will find someone that can but rule number one is DO NOT PAY You can get all the help advice and information You need for nothing just dont be afraid to ask.

best wishes
andrewwyvern

by **byowatkins** » Mon Oct 23, 2006 5:36 am

I prety much only do free advertising on the internet and I am doing quite well with my business in a short time. I can not complain about my results at all!!! There is so much out there, you just have to look around for what works best for you and then be consistent in using it!

Christine

by **mikeswealth** » Wed Nov 01, 2006 10:23 am

I totally agree,
Free advertising is definitely the way
to go.

I have just started my forum, and using free
methods only, I have brought in over 70
members in about 1 week.

The best thing is, it cost me nothing to do.

My advice is just advertise everywhere... forums,
free classifieds, ffa, safelists....just get your site
out there.

The more ads you place, the more links to your
site, which will increase search engine ranks.

by **AtHomeIncome** » Thu Nov 02, 2006 10:50 pm

Im all for free advertising.
Its no different than paid advertising.
It has been working really well for me.
I recommend it!

by **bertynat21** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:06 am

Thanks guys for the advice.
Free is good. Free is really good. I started off
paying for traffic, but soon learned and the results are great. I have people joining my business from India, Great Britain all over the world.
I am finding out new sites daily.
I have to be thankful.

bertynat21
http://nsmith.payitforward4profits.com
http://nsmith.cashflow123.com

by **Ken4e** » Tue Nov 14, 2006 6:29 pm

As an un-employed newbie, I didn't have much choice but to try free advertising....
Luckily, I happened across an old friend who has been selling online since Moby Dick was a minnow...

He was able to steer me to some good free ad sources.
I certainly haven't "arrived" yet, but I am beginning to see results...and i haven't spent a dime on ads.

by **Bingham7085** » Wed Dec 12, 2007 8:18 pm

I am so thankful that there even IS the option of free advertising. I don't have money to spend on ads that may or may not produce any results. There's another word for that: GAMBLING!

by **souljaa** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:28 pm

I mean if it works, there's not harm in trying right

. So I don't mind it, it works sometimes, sometimes it won't, but it's free, so there's really no harm in it.

by **PoFrAd** » Fri Dec 21, 2007 11:26 pm

Just like Paid Advertising, it needs to be tested. And if it works, use it.

by **sheilasultani** » Sun Dec 30, 2007 6:08 pm

I get amazing results from freee advertising. forums, safelists, traffic exchanges!

Sheila

by **razetheroof.us** » Mon May 19, 2008 11:30 pm

Im trying really hard to do this free advertizing thing. My forum has only been open for 3 weeks, and we have over 90 members already. I would love to have more of course, so I just keep trying to spread the word as much as possible.

by **kimsonsolutions** » Wed May 21, 2008 11:57 am

free advertising is as much efficient than paid one and sometimes even more , the only thing that change is the amount of time you have to spend on it

by **focswithme** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 2:15 am

Free advertising is awesome! Why pay for something you can get for free? Too bad there are so many spammers out there - it makes it very hard for us honest posters to get ahead. We can only hope that the smart consumers will join those of who are genuine and not the bots.

Thanks Captkirk - you're swell!

by **Imakeitrain** » Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:39 pm

Free advertizing is great. If you can post your ad for free and get seen by 1000's of prospects then why wouldn't you do it?

by **bej** » Thu Aug 21, 2008 4:01 am

I have used both free and paid advertising and have had more of a response with free.

I joined a paid advertising site for more money than I care to admit and have got nothing from it so far.

Bet I won't do that again!!

BJ

by **vikkigig** » Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:54 am

It is good to know I am doing the right thing!

Thanks

Vikkigig

by **NEangel** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 7:32 am

Heysal wrote:Not just free advertising - free everything. I built a whole website without spending a dime -- sell hundreds of products that don't cost a cent to sell, and now I use free promotions.

It isn't the cost of the ad that gets you the sales -- it's the amount of exposure to people who want your products that gets sales. I myself think that unless you have money to burn it is completely senseless to buy something that you can get free. Why pay per click, etc. when just as many people in a forum would be interested in your product?

And when you are getting free exposure -- you don't risk the chance of getting scammed - paying per click? How do you really know that those are honest clicks? Do you want someone reading your ad because they are getting paid to do it or because they are interested in your ad?

Same with websites -- you going to pay a Guru 30 bucks a month to give you a clone website you can call your own because you sprung for the domain and suffer the reduced traffic a copycat site gets -- or are you going to build one free that is equal to or not better and is original so gets better traffic odds anyway??

Wake up call folks.

I've been doing a ton of research and it seems to me that forums and blogs seem to be far more effective than classifieds. I've posted to dozens of classifieds and have even installed a Power Submitter, with no results.

It's seems like 99% of it all is promotion. I've just gotten into affiliate marketing and I think that it's very difficult so far. Interesting, but difficult.

by **snakeair** » Wed Oct 15, 2008 11:26 pm

I love free advertising so much that i started my own forum to provide a quality SEO friendly advertising forum. I still promote in forums and will continue to do so. If you have a free advertising forum and i'm not a member send me a PM and i'll register.

Now, i also use classifieds and safelists but not as much as i should to get decent result's. Building backlinks is what i do for my forum and some times i throw in a article or two for a good long term backlink.

If you own a website, blog or forum in which you run/maintain, i'd suggest submitting to some web directories. Since the paid directory scandel a year ago, i sold my paid directory and just submit the forum to free quality directories. Some directories put out good traffic and some don't but i'm looking for backlinks to my forum.

Most of the traffic i get to my advertising forum is from search engines and other sites linking to me. I don't even promote my forum in threads but have a link in my siggie. (The siggie is a free way to advertise) Just contribute to a community and curious people will checkout your links.

One thing all website owners need to do is make sure there site is SEO friendly so it'll get indexed well along with some traffic. A site with cool design and not continually promote 5 days a week will just die eventually.

Sorry for poor grammar, i'm just typing what i'm thinking. All i can say is I LOVE FREE ADVERTISING. I've been posting on forums since early 2005 and thought i'd open my own forum but make it SEO friendly and have a active admin. Captkirk is a great active admin of this forum and has lot's of tips and proof that free advertising works.

by **DVD-addict** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:56 am

Free advertising is a great help especially for those who are in a very tight budget like me. Though I am not so sure the value it has for my sites as free advertising sites gets crowded day by day. With this, your newly posted ads will be placed at the bottom of the page and/or on page 2 downward after a minute after you click the submit button.

by **romelalexander** » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:11 am

Greetings!

With all the various forms of Advertising Methods out there today, and the many different promoters of each it makes it very difficult for us Advertisers to pick a successful one or two to have to pay for, and hence, causes us to try out the Free ones first to see what works and what don't.... In doing so, some of us gain some success and continue using the Free Advertising Sources - For me, getting something for nothing is a much better feeling than getting the same thing and having to pay for it?!!!

FREE in many cases do NOT mean not-good or uneffective, and as such makes Free Advertising a wonderful thing! The reason for some failure is not the type of Advertising Free or paid, it's the type of Product or Service been provided, when we see something good, be it from Free or Paid Advertising we would look at it and eventually participate in it or even purchase it...

This Forum is a form of Free Advertising, and if utilized as it is intended too, which is read each other Posts, we may all be exposed to something new, something different, something great, and eventually get involved with it, which would/could/should make us all gain some element of success in whatever we are doing here?!

That was an excellent question, and i hope i stayed on course with my response!

Regards,

Romel Alexander

by **shonc2000** » Wed Feb 18, 2009 5:49 pm

Free advertising is great when its effective.

by **h20mysticshadow** » Sat Apr 04, 2009 11:17 am

Free Advertising is really great. You'll get traffic and backlinks the same with the paid advertising. Sometimes in paid advertising you need more money without ROI.

by **gmonte34** » Tue May 19, 2009 4:58 pm

Hi All,

When I first started my online store I was trying to get it seen to as many people as possible. I had no money, so I was new to advertising online. I did link exchanges for a while, then went to faa sites and blogs, and so on.

I have had very great success with it. People would tell me that it too was a waste of time and it wouldn't work. I worked from home and still do. I would advertise daily and in time I was earning between $300 to $400 a month income from free advertising alone. The only real cost to me was my business cards which was $45.

I even helped other people advertise their businesses on my stores front page as paid sponsors. They contacted me to advertise on my site. They pay me for a link on my site, and they have had great increase in their sales and revenue due to advertising with me.

all in all I have great success in the free advertising all my sites. I am a true believer it does work.

Teresa,

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